meadowlark | @hafid.alghul

What kind of “difference?”

That's up to you to decide, isn't it? Do you want to make a difference? Are you okay with this world as it is now?

So is this a philosophical question or a way of showing off your clique to anyone curious enough to look?

[ yes she has been reading the other replies ]

It's a philosophical question.
They're not a clique, they're family, and they come whether I want them to or not.

Okay, so your family knows what the deal is and the rest of us get to engage in philosophical fencing with you to try and qualify for whatever you’re cooking up? Seems like a lot of good faith to be putting into a stranger, unless you’re only fishing for people willing to follow you blindly.

You're reading into meaning and intent that isn't there.
I asked a question. You can answer it or not.

Why do you think that forming a group of masked vigilantes is going to solve the problems in New Amsterdam? Yes, I agree that there are fundamental flaws in society, but the scale of this isn’t just the city, it’s the whole world. If you start fixing New Amsterdam you’re going to run into the UNA as soon as you make a noticeable difference, and that’s an entirely different scale.

And I anticipate that being a factor.
We won't change the word on our own, but we can inspire change by taking a stand and giving people something to believe in.
And any who get involved will have to fully understand the risks that will come with this before they make a decision.

Have you thought about using the systems that are already in place to make changes rather than applying an external force to the problem?

There's too much corruption.

So what happens when you vanish in a couple weeks? Or people within your group do? Do you just keep a revolving door of people coming and going to keep this alive? What happens when it turns out the people bringing us here have a different plan for the Displaced and we're whisked away to a different city?

Saying "my way or the highway" can only go so far. If you want to help the people of New Amsterdam you need to get them on board with your plan, not just say "I know best" and hand them your decision. And if you're not willing to compromise on your plan, the only thing you're serving is your own ego.

I intend to have contingencies in place. I've been here a hell of a lot longer than most people, I get how this works.

And I haven't done anything of the sort. I haven't presented my plan, I haven't offered anything up because nothing has been set in stone. But by all means, keep assuming.

You haven't given jack shit for anyone to work with unless they dig through the replies you've given to people who are already in the know, so it's cute that you're getting mad when people make assumptions while trying to play whatever game you're going at right now. I really can't tell if you're trying to discuss a serious idea or if you just want everyone to lay out their personal philosophy for your perusal.

I asked a question to have a discussion.
I wanted to know who here wants to make a difference.
That's it.
There's no hidden motivations.
No mind games.
Some people already know what I've been planning, that's beside the point of why I asked.

Alright, I tried having a discussion and you immediately got defensive about what I have and haven't assumed, which isn't very conducive to having a discussion. "Just discussing" means you have no stake in the game, but you clearly do since you're already planning something. So it's very unclear what you actually want here.

I have my own goals in mind. Just as I have my own plans to tackle problems I see. Not everyone has to agree with me and I don't have to agree with them, doesn't mean we can't compromise or that other viewpoints can't inform how I proceed.

Should I have added a followup question? An "If so, how?" would that have made this more palatable to you?

Yes, actually. You giving aggressive and defensive replies left and right doesn't demonstrate the intent of being open to critique to the uninformed. It's not like I know you or can read your mind, you have to go through the dance and charade of making it clear what your intent is, otherwise we're going to have misunderstandings like this. It's not about being more palatable, it's about communication.

You could ask me what my intent is directly.

I did.

Look, we're just going in circles now. I've said my piece, you can add it to your list of considerations or not.

I do have a final suggestion: hire a PR manager.

Whatever.
Someone else will handle the public from now on.

I'm impressed.

Most people would have started snapping back at him, the way he was responding to you.

I did know what I was getting into, but I appreciate the vote of confidence.

[ Besides, she was commenting to push Damian's buttons because this whole post seemed like bullshit, but this guy doesn't need to know that. ]

I could tell -- I considered a similar conversation but didn't trust I wouldn't have snapped back anyway.

Can I ask you how long you've been here? Do you actually have any faith in the established organizations?

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