@loki.odinson

[selfimage]

Since the vast majority of you aren't used to being worshiped- you know, being erected shrines, answering prayers etc. etc.- I'd like to pose a philosophical quandary.

To those of you consider yourselves human: Are you still human? Or has time here, our arrival here, made us something else?

To those of us that aren't human, I'd like your thoughts as well. I'm in that bucket of course, and my perspective may not entirely align to the mortal crowd.
True or not, it's something to think about in the way that we conduct ourselves.

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[lifetothefullest]

Something other than what's easily explained by being human or some other species.

Though all the gods I've met were just their own types of beings anyway, so I'm not drawing a special line for 'divine'.

[selfimage]

I'm another species, yet still a god.
Though the definition differs in my relationship with reality.

I've never hinged myself on mortal definitions, however. That's partially what I mean, as long as we're considering the possibility of ourselves changing.

[lifetothefullest]

If you're saying that being a 'god' is more about others' opinions or designation, I can understand that, though there's still a difference between having a label given to you and actually embracing that label as yours. We can be perceived as gods without deciding to see ourselves that way.

[selfimage]

Is that your expert opinion of divinity as a mortal?

[lifetothefullest]

It's my expert opinion on mortals proclaiming themselves as gods without an extremely good reason.

Is there some reason you do think we should be embracing that title? Outside of your own status in your world, because that isn't the situation for most of us.

[selfimage]

You'll take care to notice that I didn't use the term divinity nor gods- just that as mortals, you might have been changed from what you are.
If that's the case, it could become detrimental to act purely in the manner of a human if you've become something else. We cannot undo the impact that we're creating, one that's not simply human in making. It would be myopic to discount that.

[lifetothefullest]

Assuming for a moment that that is the case, and we are something other than what we were, what exactly do you think we should be doing differently? What should we be acting in the manner of instead?

[selfimage]

Oh please- you are different. Did you have a blue glowy thing in your chest that causes you to share emotions with every other one of us that does? Somehow I doubt it. Regardless of what circumstances have caused it, you're now something else.
The first step is accepting that.
The second, well, that would be evaluating our relationship with this world.

[lifetothefullest]

Like I said, in the last place I was I learned to use magic, something which is totally normal for humans in the world that the person who taught me was from. Why is this any different? I could actually do a lot more before, so if we're talking change from the original baseline, this is a step backward.

I think this is where you're getting a lot of the disagreement from the others from too. There isn't a convincing reason to believe this change is somehow different from the sort of thing that would be considered very normal for a human in other worlds.

[selfimage]

You truly are unwilling to bend.
I'm not talking about the context of other worlds- I'm talking about this one. Disagree all you want, I've found that humans do have an unintentional destructive streak that's generally due to lack of of perspective.
Evaluating what we are in terms of our relationship with this world, and our impact upon it to those living here as what we are and what we can do hardly seems like an idea worth shoving under the rug.

[lifetothefullest]

I'm totally willing to change my opinion, I just have to have an actual reason beyond someone saying the same thing to me over and over again.

In the context of being here, and only in being here, sure, we're something different from the 'average' human. But there's a difference between acknowledging that and deciding that it it means we're something apart from the people here in some inherent way, especially when we do have the knowledge of how much being human varies in other worlds.

There's a danger in letting yourself think you're somehow more special and important than other people, no matter who you are or what you can do.

[selfimage]

[ oh.

is that it?

there's some amusement there. ]

I never said that.

[lifetothefullest]

You didn't, but I'm sure you're aware of the implications that go along with bringing up how someone might not be human--or whatever else they were--anymore, and that because of it they should potentially act differently.

If that wasn't the impression you're trying to get across, you may want to make it more clear what the point of this discussion actually is.

[selfimage]

Actually, I'm not terribly interested in whatever clarity you believe I lack. Moreso, I'd like to know what your impression of "not human" means.

[lifetothefullest]

Maybe you should be, since it seems several people interpreted your comments in a similar way.

You've already made it pretty clear that my opinion doesn't actually matter.

[selfimage]

You think that in challenging you I'm disregarding your opinion?
That's a tad harsh. I usually don't go drinking with someone I don't deem at least somewhat stimulating. So much for making friends, I suppose.

[lifetothefullest]

Challenging me isn't a problem, that's like, 90% of my conversations. But again, I'm sure you're aware of how dismissive many of your comments sound, so I don't think it's necessary to explain why that's the impression I'm getting.

But if that's not what you meant, then we can blame it on text being possibly the worst way to have any nuanced conversation.

[selfimage]

No, I believe you've already made up your mind about me.
There's no need.

[lifetothefullest]

I'm not sure how you got that out of what I said.

@thor.odinson

[ofmyth]

have you much previous experience with the divine?

[lifetothefullest]

Some; the last place I was, the beings that brought us there were called gods by some of the population, although they maintained that they weren't actually gods.

[ofmyth]

what did you think they were?

[lifetothefullest]

They were just another species. We were on their planet, so we were the aliens instead of them, but I guess that's another answer.

[ofmyth]

the alien can seem like the divine
and usually we are
but that is not all we are

[lifetothefullest]

What do you mean? In regards to it being not all you are.