@clarke.griffin

[strove]

There are a lot of things I can say here. I can chastise all of us for how discussions went before. But that's not important. People are in danger, and they're people who have helped us. I haven't made it a secret that I think Morningstar doesn't deserve devotion from us. The thing is, there's a difference between devotion and helping out someone who's helped you. It's time for us to do the latter. My issues don't mean anything. We know Morningstar can do good work.

So, let's talk. Let's plan. We should all do it in the same place.

I want to lay some ground rules.

1. Even if we've been asked to use the weapons only to stun any assailants, a number of us know it's not that simple. So, let's skip the morality talk about whether or not that's okay. Sorry, Gaby. I actually trust most people won't go in guns blazing. [She actually wouldn't if there weren't "civilians" involved. She's still not sure she does now, but that's unimportant. White lies have a place here.] Self-defense is a thing. Let's all trust one another.

2. I have a lot of questions about this. We all do. But we have a limited time to pull this off. Let's try to focus on what we can do and then figure out the rest later. If you think you can get answers now that can help us? Bring it forward. Make a new reply to draw eyes to it.

3. I figure we have two separate directions we can go, but we need all hands on deck. If you're not comfortable handling a gun, take the address for the safehouses and get them set up.

4. Nothing "funny" about these rules. Which means the first thing you're all going to say is ... about my rules. Get it out of your system.

[There is a lot more to say, a lot more to add, but Clarke knows that it likely isn't her place to talk about it. Plus, some of these people are adults, even if they don't act like it. Maybe they won't make a joke about her rules.

... But she bets they will.]

edit: Daisy set up a useful map for everyone. Keep it updated as best as you can.

[ooc: this is the previously discussed and set up IC planning post for the event! Clarke won't be replying to everyone.]

Comments

@stephen.strange

[rehandle]

If you're heading to safehouses, we'll need medical supplies as a priority.

I don't know if @gaby knows of anywhere that Morningstar keeps a stockpile, but if there are any of you who work in medical fields or even just a job that has a first aid kit in a backroom, we need what you can get.

When I've done what I can out there I'll be focusing on medical runs across the safehouses. Anyone else got experience and willing to use it? If we can get an idea of numbers it may be best to assign to select safehouses when we know how the population's panning out, make sure everywhere's covered. Anyone happy to get their hands dirty and follow instruction, you're needed. Anyone who can run transport, you too.

If there's a medical emergency, call me. If you can get back to a safehouse, better.

[ though if he's on the other side of the city when you ring in, you're just going to have to get along with being fucked. ]

@gaby

[vns]

[ she sets up a location ping with the Morningstar storehouse for medical supplies. she only gives permission to Stephen for now, with the ability to add more according to who he trusts. ]

[strove]

Let's see what the two of us can do, and see who else can take some of what we have off our hands.

@leo.fitz

[retravel]

I'm going into the field first, but I can throw my support wherever it's needed, when I get back.

[ "when," tryna be optimistic here. ]

@margaret.carter

[revlon]

I know some basic first aid.

[ Which seems innocuous enough, but Stephen will know the whole of it — she knows combat medicine, can administer it under fire. Sometimes hasty, sometimes sloppy, but it'll do the job and keep people alive until they can be medevaced to more help. ]

If any teams are headed to priority addresses where contact with the UNA is likely, they should take a kit with them if supplies allow it.

[covertness]

i can help
a biology degree isn't a medical one, but i've touched a first aid kit before

[ and private to stephen: ] i'm going out into the field first

@matches.malone

[reneger]

First priority is getting everyone out, isn t it.

For those less medically inclined, we should work out who is going to what apartment. Less chance of overlap, less chance of missing someone.

Work out well-balanced squads, but that'd be a hell of a lot easier for those who actually know shit about most of us.

I've got combat experience. Know how to use a gun, know enough first aid to get by. Call me for backup if you need it.

[strove]

[All that arguing about whether or not to give him a chance just paid off. This is such a weird moment for Clarke, but it's not like she's going to make a single indication that that happened at all.]

It should be. But when we first got here, a lot of Morningstar agents died for us. I'd like to make sure that doesn't happen, even if it's not for us.

We can use some of what Hafid has gathered to organize groups. But we can also trust people to handle themselves.

Do you think you're better fighting or doing first aid? Stephen and I are bound to have our hands full.

@loki.odinson

[selfimage]

How many people do you think we can save given the slim timeframe?

[ he's usually no hero, but to him, it's important that Morningstar keeps running, even if he's not entirely a part of them. plus, there are people out there fighting the revolutionary fight, he's inclined to help. ]

@prom.argentum

[mercurio]

constantly updating location GPS after arriving at an apartment could help with avoiding overlap! might hafta consider coding an automatic location share in case something similar happens in the future

/private

[batricide]

I need those escrima sticks.

@leo.fitz

[retravel]

Fitz here. Intelligence and engineering operative at SHIELD and volunteer for Morningstar (said in the interest of full disclosure, not because I've any insider information, seeing as I don't). Most of you know me by now, but I’d like to extend a warm welcome to those new to hell. While I don't agree with Clarke entirely, I'm in support of the overall sentiment of collaboration.

Given that this is Morningstar’s operation and tech, I suggest we follow their directives to the best of our ability. Not only for reasons of morality and respect for the institution that saw fit to save our skins, but also because they're the experts. This is their terrain.

That being said, I understand (and hope) we'll do what needs to be done.

Many Morningstar agents have been a great help to us, including lab contacts testing samples of our blood and other substances. Gaby/El have confirmed these individuals, including our primary contact, are in danger. We’re multiversal anomalies and living weapons, meaning those results, as well as all who’ve processed the samples, are invaluable. Even without knowing this, if I were the UNA, I’d target scientists early and with great firepower. Cut off the head and cart it back to home base, so to speak.

Seems like a priority rescue to me, and I'm well aware of how that sounds. [ when this concerns people. ] If you share my concerns, we should work together. I think we're all stronger as a team, despite our differences. Maybe even because of them.

@markus.manfred

[saviorexe]

[They'd spoken on the subject of lab samples and the like not all that long ago; maybe that's what drives Markus to quickly respond to this, beyond the mere fact that Morningstar contacts are in dire need of their help.]

I want to help with this. We should make it a priority to aid these contacts and to keep those samples out of the hands of the UNA. We don't need more reasons to feel like our group might be compromised.

I can fight if necessary, and I know how to handle a gun. Though I would suggest going in with caution rather than abandon; they UNA might already have beat us there.

@margaret.carter

[revlon]

[ Peggy, too, has spoken with Fitz at length about the importance of lab samples — particularly about keeping them out of selfish or hostile hands. Project Rebirth taught her that the safest hands are their own (her own, in the matter of Steve Rogers' blood) and she still believes that now. ]

I agree with both you and Mr Manfred. We may not know much about Morningstar, but we know enough to recognise they've helped us and kept our secrets — lab contacts included. If the UNA is as ruthless as they say, I don't want our information in their hands. (And it's highly likely the scientists have more in their back pocket than just our blood work.)

I'll go with you. A team of two is faster; a team of about 3 - 4 is safer.

@keith.kogane

[secondnature]

I'm willing to go where I'm needed. I've been involved in operations like this back home as a paladin of Voltron. I have experience in infiltration, building bombs for distractions, and fighting. I can also pilot better than most, and I have a car because of my job.

I can lead a force or follow someone else's lead. We need to save everyone.

I've been on a mission that was a trap, and lost someone who had become my friend. I don't want that to happen here. I'm not saying they're my friends. But they could be. It's a bad spot to be in.

@ojiro.juniper

[deicider]

For the warehouse, we've got no idea what Morningstar's exit strategy is or if it'll be viable. We'll need to cobble together our own. Using your car is out question unless Morningstar's got a way to scrub it, but maybe some of the agents have vehicles we can use.

@ojiro.juniper

[deicider]

If we can get the timing down tight, we can stop both attacks. The warehouse is going to be a lot tougher, that's a lot more agents and it's on their home turf. Screw ups are going to cost big. We need a headcount on who can go before we figure out anything else, so raise your hand if you can hack it. If there's anything that might be super helpful to know about your skillset, add that, too.

I have a lot of combat and infiltration experience, no useful powers that can pinch hit.

[strove]

One time, my people were sick and unable to fight a battle that was coming their way. Instead of fighting, we essentially ... blocked it. The means doesn't really matter here. It doesn't apply in a far more architecturally advanced society. I think the concept is the same, though.

Is that something that we can do here?

@loki.odinson

[selfimage]

I've got this whole no-good sneaky thing down, I'm certain that it shouldn't be too difficult for me to make a few choice people disappear if needed.
Either those in need of a little getaway or under the UNA's nose. I'm better at running away then I am conflict.

[ but he's also pretty good at that, but running away is generally better in this situation. ]

Names and numbers will do.
And serving as a rather nice distraction, if needed.

[strove]

How are you planning on being sneaky here?

@prom.argentum

[mercurio]

i work well with guns so i'll be heading out to get people out and safe
anyone wants to join me lmk

if anyone needs a hand or is in a pinch let everyone know along with your location! we gotta try and not overlap apartments like @matches.malone said but we should be relatively close to each other in case of an emergency!

[strove]

You're not heading out alone, are you?

@hafid.alghul

[batricide]

I'm not interested in another fight about the morality of killing. So instead I'm going to outline some realities about what we're facing.

There is no reality in which everyone escapes unharmed. If you agree to help, you're agreeing to risk your life and the lives of others who are relying on you. Make sure you're prepared to do what it takes to protect you and the people around you.

A stunned enemy will eventually come to and that will be another factor you will have to be there. You may be choosing the life of someone trying to kill you over the life of a teammate or ally.

We can't save everyone. Be aware of this. If there is a choice between saving the many or the few, go for the many. The life in front of you is not more important than the lives of everyone else.

@prom.argentum

[mercurio]

[he read]

us vs them and we better come out winning right? no room for second guessing
look after yourself too hafid!

@daisy.johnson

[evite]

my priority is the kids.

[ no traditional joking elaboration, just the facts. ]

i don't care if you shoot to stun or kill, but i'm not going to waste time debating you on it.
if you're ready, i'd like to go now.

[strove]

If people fight in the field over that, other people will get hurt. People who didn't come here from different walks of life. My best guess is that people don't tend to shoot to kill in this world. Maybe that'll give us an advantage with the soldiers. I can't say.

Get the kids back. But get everyone back.

@yalena.yardeen

[motivation]

time to kick some arse

i'll head to the warehouse

@kalem.rider

[kometes]

I don't understand why we are having these conversations here instead of in person.

[ He's like an old man who thinks people spend too much time on their screens rather than communicating in person. ]

I can lead a small team to engage the enemy and allow people time to rescue the targets.
I have a simple formation in mind to use, but to pull it off I need experienced fighters who are quick on their feet.

@giovanni.rammsteiner

[ofobedience]

Who knows why we're conversing at all. It's time for action over idle chatter.

[Someone has itchy trigger fingers.]

@ignis.scientia

[cheffeur]

I have other concerns about this whole situation, admittedly.

If Morningstar operatives are at risk in their own homes, it means that this alternate faction has information about their identities and locations. However, nothing about us, nor the safehouses, has seemed to be in danger. So my question is how they've obtained such information. The easiest answer would, of course, be a spy or mole in the organization, in which case one of the civilians we're trying to save may be learning more than they'd ever hoped.

It could also mean that Morningstar's personal communications could be monitored. I assume their agents have a network similar to ours that we have no access to- but if this 'UNA' was able to obtain contact information, then the security of our own should be questioned as well.

Just some thoughts for going forward.

[yes he completely ignored her request to 'do what we can and figure out the rest later' SORRY CLARKE.....]

@stephen.strange, private.

[rehandle]

[ huh

he's been selective about this so far, if only out of a lack of any real need to share. there's already a lot going on, but - ]

I may be able to assist with detecting any human leak.

[strove]

Do we have a plan for the base and the trap involved there? Ojiro and I have covered some more explosive ways of dealing with it, but I'd like to make sure those people are helped, too.

Unless everyone is interested in explosive cars again. It worked last time.

@giovanni.rammsteiner

[ofobedience]

I'm interested in explosive cars.

[he's never seen that happen and would like to, basically...]

@kalem.rider

[kometes]

I need a vehicle. Preferably one that won't break easily.

I will need a rider as well.

@giovanni.rammsteiner

[ofobedience]

What will you require the rider to do?