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ᴇᴜɢᴜᴇɴᴇ ʜɪᴄᴋs ([personal profile] preseance) wrote in [community profile] meadowlark2020-12-29 12:28 pm

@eugene.hicks

I don't have a horse in this race, but y'all expressed an interest in speaking with James Henries. On that account, Jason Todd stayed up on the moon to speak with him some and this is what he uncovered.

For organization's sake, I've arranged things according to topic. Forgive me, I ain't possessed of the soul of brevity.


 James Henries:
  • He's a fella like us, that was once taken to a similar interdimensional nexus. This dimension happens his home, and after he returned here he set about trying to get back to where he'd been on account of missing a loved one. He's near abouts three hundred years old, and has been transferring his consciousness between clone bodies in that time, courtesy Giles Bell and some manner of advanced tech. He lives on the moon with a whole passel of birds. Frankly, after the Aerie I don't think I'm of a mind to have much to do with birds ever again, but he clearly don't share that stance.


  • His goal was to find a power source that could tear through dimensions. He says he destroyed a god, but doing this broke it — I know some of you are aware of this fact already, so bear with me — and it 'splintered' into pieces. These pieces seem to have brought us here and gave us powers, the blue glow and the empathy bond we're all so fond of.


  • The first folks that wound up here got experimented on. Some of them died. He apparently didn't seem to feel a whole lot of remorse over that.


  • We arrive in the Mariana Trench. There's an automated system put in place to retrieve our unconscious bodies. After we're delivered to New Amsterdam (primarily, anyhow) and we go and pick up the new arrivals, Morningstar helps us get situated. This ain't an official partnership, Henries doesn't seem to know much about Morningstar himself.

  •  Johann Grey:
  • Grey makes a point of being bankrolled by wealthy corporations the world over. Odds are, he's the most powerful man alive right now. The fella that snaps his fingers so's things get done. Happens to look like Henries, which Henries seemed not to like. Clone body thing, I suppose. Henries says Grey stole his face, though this seems like a more recent development. Lord only knows what the man looked like before. Grey's been at his game 'about half a millennia' or so, which pegs him as the older of the two.


  • Grey and Henries were working on Project Spinetail together, which was Henries' efforts to harness the power of a god, and Grey's to awaken one, near as we can tell. Seems like they ain't been in contact since that all went to Hell. Henries ain't got a clue how to track him down, so there likely ain't no recourse there.


  • Cassius seems to be the source of any further information about Grey.

  •  Monsters:
  • Some of the monsters belong to Grey, but not the ones we saw most recently. Henries seems to be of the opinion they didn't have Grey's 'signature'.


  • This is my personal thought, but if we've got fragments from the Blue god, it stands to reason that Grey's interference with the Gold one might be what's bringing them about.

  •  Gods:
  • There's seven of them, in theory, called different things by different cultures throughout history. Each seems to be associated with a color.


  • Blue we know, they're the one Henries and Grey used as I touched on already up yonder.


  • Gold is also a safe bet, given our recent experience in the Aerie and Antarctica, not to mention those dreams we had a while back with soldiers and the like with the gold eyes. Anyone with the Kestrels ought to know that using our powers there resulted in a golden glow rather than the standard blue just as well.


  • Other colors we've seen associated with the gates that we can probably reasonably assume also correspond to a god are red, black, white, green and orange, which corresponds to what some folks heard in the Aerie — that the Cardinals got their powers by chaining six out of seven of them. There's also the murals popping up around the city that seem to show the very same.


  • And for anyone of a mind to pester Jason for more, I would advise you don't. He's stuck his neck out enough for the lot of us, y'all can leave him be.

    If there's any mistakes, they're mine alone. Feel free to correct me any which way. Any additional information would be welcome as well. Better to coordinate than not.
    lifetothefullest: (ɪ'ᴠᴇ ʟᴏᴠᴇᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ɪ'ᴠᴇ ʟᴏsᴛ)

    @lance.sweets

    [personal profile] lifetothefullest 2020-12-29 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
    Thanks, both of you, for all of this information.

    [He's still incredibly annoyed with this whole situation, but at least there's something to work with. Nate's already addressing what he'd wondered first, so he'll fixate on some other issues.]

    So although Henries' motives make sense, how did he find out about these gods, and what exactly did he do to end up destroying it? Additionally, what happened with the god--presumably the gold one--that Johann was after?

    Was it just those two they thought were there? What about the other five?

    What was the point of the experimentation he did on the first arrivals, and when was that? Before the people we know of as the first of the Displaced arrived?

    I find it unlikely he would've given up on his quest after a few hundred years, despite this setback, so is he still working on his plans? If so, what is looking into doing next?

    I don't expect answers to any of these questions, just for the record.


    [They're just to see if anyone else might have information or ideas that could put something together.]
    reneger: (it's all about you.)

    @jason.todd

    [personal profile] reneger 2020-12-29 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
    1) how does anyone find out about anything? internet probably
    2) spinetail was a machine he built to destroy it
    3) fuck if I know
    4&5) fuck if i know
    6) he wanted to get what was in us out of us. it doesn't work
    7) shortly before morningstar found group number one on a bus they thought was full of weapons
    8) does anyone really ever give up on a goal like that?
    9) fuck if i know
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    [personal profile] lifetothefullest 2020-12-29 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
    2. So was destroying it his real intention, or an accident while trying to 'harness' it? And what exactly was Spinetail?

    [He has a guess, but at this point it's only that.]

    8. It's unlikely, at this point, so we should probably be aware that he may end up doing something else.
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    [personal profile] reneger 2020-12-29 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
    2.a) stealing it's power was his goal, jimmy was going to do it by destroying the god. his friends just wanted to awaken the god
    2.b) didn't ask details
    8) yeah. i wouldn't worry too much about him trying to fuck us over personally though. he's a little out of touch with the world, but seemed excited to have 'friends'
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    [personal profile] lifetothefullest 2020-12-29 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
    2. Great, sounds like an amazing plan.

    8. That's good to know, though from your other descriptions of his attitude I'm not entirely confident in how much having 'friends' would mean to him, especially since he won't even talk to us.

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    variate: (Shits.)

    @ren.amamiya

    [personal profile] variate 2020-12-29 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
    Hey.
    Did you find out if anyone else has that Spinetail technology that he used?
    reneger: (couldn't stand the person inside me.)

    [personal profile] reneger 2020-12-29 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
    johann was involved as were a lot of big names
    variate: (Just fuck me up.)

    [personal profile] variate 2020-12-29 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
    So Grey and Ling might know how to make another one.

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    @robert.plant

    [personal profile] righteously 2020-12-29 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
    Seconding the 'how did he destroy it' thing

    Also, I wanna see some pictures of the people he experimented on. Implant recordings. Whatever. They could be our people. Some of us have kids.


    ( has he admitted that publicly before? not sure, he isn't thinking clearly, he's just latching on to reasons to be pissed about stuff lately. )
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    [personal profile] lifetothefullest 2020-12-29 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
    Jason answered your first question in the response above yours.

    [And okay, he both wants to ask about that last comment and knows better than to do so, and also has to very firmly not think about this possibility too much. There's a brief delay before he responds.]

    That's a good point.
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    [personal profile] righteously 2020-12-29 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
    We need deets on that machine
    Where is it, what was it made of, does it still work
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    [personal profile] lifetothefullest 2020-12-29 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
    That's not something I have any real idea of where to start with, except for possibly the spear that was in the dream people here had about the Trench, and which was also in Zerzura.

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    @jason.todd

    [personal profile] reneger 2020-12-29 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
    destroyed
    wiped off the face of the earth in the aftermath along with hundreds of people who had been working on it

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    @castiel.winchester

    [personal profile] unwings 2020-12-29 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
    No.

    [ we are absolutely not thinking about jack down there. we are 100% not going to talk about their son being experimented on. that's not a rabbit hole they need to be going down.

    (so, this is less a coherent point, more a visceral reaction, sorry) ]
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    [personal profile] righteously 2020-12-29 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
    They built a god-destroying machine, Cas
    If Jack was there, we need to know
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    [personal profile] unwings 2020-12-29 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
    We have no more reason to believe Jack was there than we do Jody or Rowena or Chuck himself.

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    reneger: (sometimes black ends up white.)

    @jason.todd

    [personal profile] reneger 2020-12-29 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
    do you really want to know?
    he talked about it like a scientist talks about guinea pigs
    no remorse, only useless data
    righteously: (¹⁵ ᴀ ᴡᴇʟʟ ʀᴇsᴘᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴍᴀɴ)

    [personal profile] righteously 2020-12-29 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
    Want to? Hell no.
    But I think it's necessary.
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    [personal profile] reneger 2020-12-29 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
    i'll add it to my list
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    @nathan.drake

    [personal profile] nonscriptum 2020-12-29 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
    seconding dean here, that's information we might actually need.

    [ They'd needed it in Hadriel, after Nate went spelunking in an old Null test facility. The content he brought out with him was horrific but ultimately helped them. ]
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    [personal profile] reneger 2020-12-30 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
    where did you come from?
    when?

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    righteously: found on google (¹⁵ ɪᴛ ʀᴇᴍɪɴᴅs ᴍᴇ ᴏғ ᴀ sᴏɴɢ)

    [personal profile] righteously 2020-12-30 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
    Cas and Sam are both here
    Odds are looking pretty good to me.

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