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Marian Hawke ([personal profile] championofsnark) wrote in [community profile] meadowlark2020-11-11 05:02 pm

@marian.hawke

Hello you lot. I know people might still be pissed about what went down, so ignore if you don't want an update, however.

So Riverstone sent us medical reports but since I don't know what any of it means, if someone with modern/medical know-how wants to look and explain shite, I'll send it to you. These are the summaries I think I understood:

Our powers don't seem to be biological? So when we used them they didn't show any biological changes? I think? Don't know what that means.

I agreed to do a dream study to try and figure out why I keep showing up in your dreams, they said strangely our brains appear completely awake when we're doing it. No wonder I'm bloody tired.

Also can someone who's been around for a bit explain what the Mariana Trench was?

Added: I got weary of not letting other people take the buck on this one, they gave us the name James Henries and said if we told you lot they'd lose their advantage. Hopefully not, but there you go!
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-12 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Not really, but I'm open to hearing any examples you have of people outright refusing to consider it.

I think right now it feels very much like you and your friend are trying to unequivocally declare one thing the right answer, and ironically you guys are being inflexible and rigid about it. You'll only allow it to be called one specific thing, it can only be dubbed magic, and if anyone has an open mind about any other solution they're being accused of rejecting that path entirely.

I see myself and I see Lance both saying 'yes, that could be right', but being willing to accept it doesn't seem to satisfy you guys.
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[personal profile] evocation 2020-11-12 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
all the evidence we've gotten points to us not getting a scientific explanation
someone cut open their chest and didn't find anything
riverstone ran a ton of tests and didn't find anything
a bunch of people have said that they have powers back home that can't be dampened by science and technology, but they are here
we can share dreams, share emotions, pull shit out of our chests, change reality, teleport
what i'm trying to say is, maybe we should stop having hypothetical discussions and signing up to let corporations fuck with us and focus on like
who did this to us
who brought us here
what it all actually means
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-12 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
A lack of evidence is not evidence, but setting that aside

We ARE focused on that, there's a constant drive and initiative to find those answers with no bias against any particular source that I've seen.

I don't agree with the Riverstone testing, and I'm one of the more scientifically motivated members of the Displaced.

What you're asking people to do is think less and consider fewer alternatives. There are dozens of minds here. We're not losing anything by letting different people come at this problem from all possible angles. We're not even excluding the one you're passionate about. In fact, it's entirely possible that in the pursuit of one theory we find answers that get us further with another.

There's always room for discussion. There's always room for thinking.
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[personal profile] evocation 2020-11-12 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
you don't think people shut down when the god thing is brought up?
i did it too
it freaks people out so they don't want to talk about it
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-12 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I think it makes some people uncomfortable, but that's natural. I've seen more people from worlds that have gods than worlds without. I haven't seen anyone outright reject the notion entirely.

Science is freaking you out, too, and you don't want to talk about it. People balk at different things, but we're not collectively writing it off.
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[personal profile] evocation 2020-11-12 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
i'm not freaked out by it, though
i just think we can get plenty done without one
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-12 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough, and you're right. We don't need the full explanation to use the tools given to us. I don't think any of us will be turning down a path or a solution just because we don't understand it wholly.
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[personal profile] evocation 2020-11-12 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, i hope you're right
and you'll help me kick someone's ass if they don't, right?
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-12 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Of course.
We all have to be willing to compromise and work together, even if it defies our understanding or traditional belief at the time. Constantly learning and evolving is how humanity's survived this long.
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[personal profile] evocation 2020-11-12 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, sure
you know i'm not like
some 1600s puritan who thinks science is scary
right?
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-12 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I do, and thank you for being willing to be open minded about that

It might be nice if you mentioned it to your friend, who seems to think I'm betraying you and disrespecting you like a cowardly dog, or a sheep, or some other zoo animal I might've missed along the way
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[personal profile] evocation 2020-11-13 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
the weird thing is
i think he's being protective in his own way
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-13 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
So that makes it okay with you?
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[personal profile] evocation 2020-11-13 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
you want to copy and paste where i said that?
is my implant glitching and typing shit i'm not telling it to?
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-13 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know, I just kind of hoped instead of excusing him maybe you'd
say something about it
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[personal profile] evocation 2020-11-13 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
i was already talking to him in private when you brought it up
i don't feel like starting my millionth public argument on the network right now
especially with someone who doubles down and gets worse when you call him out
you, rey, nate, yennefer and dean have already tried it on this post
it didn't solve anything
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-13 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
It's not about the argument or the magic it's
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-13 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Nevermind. You're right.
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[personal profile] wittingly 2020-11-13 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing, don't stress it.