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ᴋʏʟᴏ ʀᴇɴ ([personal profile] warfares) wrote in [community profile] meadowlark2019-06-18 04:12 pm

@kylo.ren - november 4, 2511; locked to morningstar agents and contacts

Investigation into the leak that lead to the raid on Morningstar agents in September strongly suggests that the source might, in fact, be survivors of the crash in June.

It is time to consider moving on the UNA.

However, this poses several problems, particularly given that our goal is ultimately to reclaim the captured agents.

The first is determining their location; Morningstar has been unable to track the captured agents and it is likely that the UNA has a means to nullify or otherwise cloak the implants much in the way Morningstar has been able to do with the Displaced following each drop-off.

The second is extracting the agents once we have determined their location; this will place any rescuers directly in the path of UNA soldiers who are, as experience suggests, difficult to engage directly. It is also likely that in accomplishing this, the UNA will immediately suspect Morningstar which will lead to an elevation in hostility.

The most efficient way to acquire the information that will allow us to do both is to go to the source: capturing one of their soldiers.

To that end, the UNA has a base locally. Scouting for information will be difficult though not impossible.

Ideally, we will be looking to pin down movement patterns and shift times before moving onto outright capture; the soldiers work in groups. We will also need to secure a site to hold them once they’re in our custody.

Those that wish to assist are welcome, particularly those with abilities and experience beyond that which Morningstar can provide. Additionally, anyone wishing to weigh in on this plan or offer alternatives should do so now, as the longer the agents remain in UNA custody, the greater the risk to the rest of us.



( OOC NOTES:
1. while the tone of this post might give the impression that kylo ren has determined his course and will not be moved, we are in fact very open to suggestion and brainstorming.
2. this network is locked to morningstar agents and contacts. if you would like to be involved and have not signed up with morningstar yet, the page is here.
3. any ideas discussed here will likely be referred back to in the upcoming event, despite the fact that this network is happening prior to knowledge of the event.
4. mods wanted to clarify that there is only a single base in the city. )
998: (sighs illegitimately)

@jon.snow

[personal profile] 998 2019-06-18 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
If they're smart they'll be keeping them outside the cities, where they can't run away. They could even be keeping them out near the Colonies, or a ship in orbit. We have to be prepared for that. Assuming they aren't dead, or broken like the soldiers.

You're right that we should be seeking information anywhere that we can find it. I don't know that I have any ideas you haven't considered already.
stabilis: (234)

@john.jaqobis

[personal profile] stabilis 2019-06-18 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
In my experience, shady organizations love putting their black sites on the backsides of mostly empty planets. If they've got access, it's probably their safest bet.
998: (great.......)

[personal profile] 998 2019-06-18 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
They're United Nations colonies. They have access to everything.

[how...are they going to get to the DARK SIDE OF THE MOON......]

Though Mars seems less likely than the others, now.
Edited 2019-06-18 22:55 (UTC)
revlon: (553)

@margaret.carter

[personal profile] revlon 2019-06-18 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a stretch and possibly outlandish, but not too much so, given where and when we are. History does point to governments shipping off convicts to faraway colonies to live out the rest of their days in abject misery.

[ That's how they got Australia. America, too, technically. Rule Britannia, etc etc. ]
Edited 2019-06-18 22:56 (UTC)
998: (come on then)

[personal profile] 998 2019-06-19 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
They could just as well be keeping somewhere them on this planet, between the cities. Nobody else is allowed to go there.

I don't know the satellites could find something like that, or if they'd be able to hide it, and I don't know if that would be easier for them than shipping them off to the far side of the moon.

They'd be fools to let our people loose among the colonists, though.


[but if there's one thing jon's managed to learn it's to never underestimate the sheer stupidity of the people that hate you.]
revlon: (222)

[personal profile] revlon 2019-06-19 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
There are rumblings of growing Morningstar sentiment amongst the colonists. It's already out of their hands.

But to your point about locations between the cities, yes, it is the more likely option. I found information on research outposts primarily established in areas to document environmental changes and ensure that the atmospheric stabilisers are running properly. They're infrequently visited by supply drops and not much else. (Perhaps @prom.argentum can learn more about these transports via his job.)

If those outposts exist, I have no doubt there could be more out there and off the record. UNA information is nearly impossible to access and the UN is only slightly less so.
[ She's maintaining her stellar reputation in government in order to get a job at the embassy itself in the future. Baby steps. ] But those can't be our only avenues of intel.
Edited 2019-06-19 00:33 (UTC)
998: (ok lemme think)

[personal profile] 998 2019-06-19 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
There must be service workers, perhaps engineers. They're too afraid of artificial intelligence to build machines that can manage themselves.

revlon: (078)

[personal profile] revlon 2019-06-19 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Precisely. And people need food, even prisoners.

[ Assuming they're still alive after they've served their use. ]
998: (considering)

[personal profile] 998 2019-06-19 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
[omg lady peggy likes his idea]

So it's a matter of getting in the servants' quarters.

[this is weirdly familiar, like they're trying to infiltrate a castle on westeros.]

Do we have any way of tracking these people down without UN records?
revlon: (143)

[personal profile] revlon 2019-06-20 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Everyone's information is available to a degree.

[ Search her name, her address and place of work will come up. As it will for them all. The only people wiped from the databases seem to be UNA recruits and the nurse that was murdered a few weeks before her own arrival in August. But that's neither here nor there. ]

Looking into whoever works at the outposts, and under what corporation, is certainly interesting. It may or may not yield information on this particular case, but it's a piece of the greater puzzle of this world nonetheless.

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mercurio: ❥mercurio (310)

[personal profile] mercurio 2019-06-23 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
i could look into it if it'd prove beneficial to have that info
dunno how fast i can have it happen but it'll be worth a try

if i know what exactly i'm trying to look for?
revlon: (590)

[personal profile] revlon 2019-06-25 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Prompto, thank you; it's not urgent, more a curiosity, but whatever you can find is better than nothing, especially since we're not entirely sure what we're looking for.

Perhaps what sort of supplies are being sent to these outposts, where they're located, maybe if any personnel accompanies these deliveries? No one seems to know much about the facilities. I'm curious if they are what the paperwork claims they are — or if they're the only stops those trains make.
mercurio: ❥ponponpon (069)

[personal profile] mercurio 2019-06-26 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, if it's not urgent then i'll work on it when it can and so that way it won't be super suspicious if i'm poking my nose a lot into places

i'll report back if i find anything substantial
or even if i don't at least we can know that it isn't
revlon: (155)

[personal profile] revlon 2019-06-27 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I am confident you'll be the very picture of discretion. Trains have held secret cargo for centuries, and I doubt this one is no exception.

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vns: (Sept)

@gaby

[personal profile] vns 2019-06-19 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
No one is up in the colonies or a ship in orbit.

Just putting that out there. It's not the first time one of you have thought that's where someone would be jailed. I'm making it clear now that that isn't likely.


[ way too many factors.

plus: time. the biggest factor of them all. ]
forcevisions: (i just got too lonely)

@rey.nolo

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-19 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Have you or any other Morningstar branches found other political prisons?
Any ideas on what we might be looking for?
vns: (Sept)

[personal profile] vns 2019-06-19 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
If we have, it's not something I'd know.

[ pacifist Gaby problems. ]

But it's somewhere that even the most savvy couldn't just spot on a dossier.

Everything they do has to look good, or it shakes the foundation of the world they enforce.
Edited (pacifist*) 2019-06-19 00:19 (UTC)
forcevisions: (tlj_042)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-19 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Probably not their base then, either. Or at the headquarters in New Beijing.
In fact, probably not in a megacity at all.
vns: (Quinze)

[personal profile] vns 2019-06-19 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
No.

But it's not hard to get from one place to another. Problem is, there is still a lot of ground to cover.

I can say that Morningstar is designed to defeat a problem like this. As you've determined, they used New Amsterdam Morningstar agents to get information. That's why their attack on us was ultimately unsuccessful. They couldn't get more, and we had systems in place to help people clear out.

But no agent in New Amsterdam will know what's happening in New Prague.

It's likely that they've realized that, and are hoping to focus their efforts here instead of elsewhere. What efforts they may have.
forcevisions: (tlj_270)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-19 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Moving them across the world wouldn't be that much easier than moving them into space. We can probably at least safely assume it's an installation near the city, if they're keeping them planetside and outside this and other megacities.
I thought there wasn't much out there?
vns: (Six)

[personal profile] vns 2019-06-19 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
As far as we know, there isn't. So, what are they using to hide what is out there?

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998: (for real for real)

[personal profile] 998 2019-06-19 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
[that's a relief, at least.]

That narrows it down to one planet.

[but it's still a huge amount of ground to cover. more than anyone in jon's world has ever managed, to his knowledge.]

Is there anywhere down here that's been ruled out?
vns: (Quinze)

[personal profile] vns 2019-06-19 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
The North American continent.

[ dark humor? ]
998: (sasses internally)

[personal profile] 998 2019-06-19 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
We'll try to stay out of the Smoking Sea.

[valyrian humor.]

revlon: (586)

[personal profile] revlon 2019-06-19 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
[ don't, gaby, it still stings ]