@kylo.ren - november 4, 2511; locked to morningstar agents and contacts

[warfares]

Investigation into the leak that lead to the raid on Morningstar agents in September strongly suggests that the source might, in fact, be survivors of the crash in June.

It is time to consider moving on the UNA.

However, this poses several problems, particularly given that our goal is ultimately to reclaim the captured agents.

The first is determining their location; Morningstar has been unable to track the captured agents and it is likely that the UNA has a means to nullify or otherwise cloak the implants much in the way Morningstar has been able to do with the Displaced following each drop-off.

The second is extracting the agents once we have determined their location; this will place any rescuers directly in the path of UNA soldiers who are, as experience suggests, difficult to engage directly. It is also likely that in accomplishing this, the UNA will immediately suspect Morningstar which will lead to an elevation in hostility.

The most efficient way to acquire the information that will allow us to do both is to go to the source: capturing one of their soldiers.

To that end, the UNA has a base locally. Scouting for information will be difficult though not impossible.

Ideally, we will be looking to pin down movement patterns and shift times before moving onto outright capture; the soldiers work in groups. We will also need to secure a site to hold them once they’re in our custody.

Those that wish to assist are welcome, particularly those with abilities and experience beyond that which Morningstar can provide. Additionally, anyone wishing to weigh in on this plan or offer alternatives should do so now, as the longer the agents remain in UNA custody, the greater the risk to the rest of us.


( OOC NOTES:
1. while the tone of this post might give the impression that kylo ren has determined his course and will not be moved, we are in fact very open to suggestion and brainstorming.
2. this network is locked to morningstar agents and contacts. if you would like to be involved and have not signed up with morningstar yet, the page is here.
3. any ideas discussed here will likely be referred back to in the upcoming event, despite the fact that this network is happening prior to knowledge of the event.
4. mods wanted to clarify that there is only a single base in the city. )

Comments

@kylo.ren

[warfares]

It would be preferable that we avoid killing anyone until we're at least able to determine something of value.

( even so: )

How was it, fighting them?
Did you find them able to anticipate your attacks?

@rey.nolo

[forcevisions]

What do you mean until?

[warfares]

Only that death would hopefully prove unnecessary given the array of abilities to hand and the fact that we have no idea, really, what we will find until we have a soldier in our custody.

( it's not a lie, really. )

[forcevisions]

We're here to save the lives of Morningstar agents.

[ not end anyone else's. how likely is it that below the helmets of the una soldiers, there are people like finn? ]

[warfares]

And what do you imagine will happen if they are able to track us back to our safe house, knowing we were able to get the better of one of their own?
Do you imagine they will be merciful?
Look at what they did to the families of those taken.

[forcevisions]

You're right. The UNA isn't merciful. We have to be, or we're just more of the same.
Those are the risks we accept when doing the right thing by getting these agents free.
And if we never take the soldier to the safehouse, we don't have to worry about any of that.

[evite]

the safehouse isn't an option.
the caves might be, though. we've used them pretty successfully for training without interruption. i don't think anyone would think to go there, and if we're careful to incapacitate before transport, they won't know where they are to find us later.
my main concern is they'll know who their captors are through our implants. if the scramblers work, that's less of an issue.

for the record, though? they deserve just as good as they gave us. i didn't get kicked in the ribs just to shake some asshole's hand and send him back home with a cooperation ribbon.

[kgbs]

In this instance, I would not kill them since they are needed for something.

[ all bets would be off once they had what kylo needed, though. ]

The one I was able to incapacitate was on his own for some reason. I did not ask. So, I was able to use the enhanced strength that this place has given me to take him down. They are strong and they are resilient. I do not think he expected that level of power, though. If one can be separated from the group and distracted, it would be easier to capture them.

[warfares]

That aligns with what I've been lead to expect.
They've likely been enhanced but I wouldn't be surprised if their armor doesn't lend them some assistance. Disabling whatever software is onboard might help limit their advantage.

[kgbs]

They are strong but they are not invincible.

I would hardly suggest using someone for bait but if that is what it comes down to, it would be enough to turn their attention elsewhere for a few moments if they are in a group.

[ not that he wants to volunteer anyone for that. ]

I do not know much about software, though. That is my an area of expertise but most tangible things can be destroyed with fists or clubs or boots.

@daisy.johnson

[evite]

if we can get our hands on one of their drones, we know that works as a decent distraction.

@kylo.ren

[warfares]

And how would we do that?

[kgbs]

[ grumble. ]

Is that something you would be able to do? You have the technological prowess.

@daisy.johnson

[evite]

we're not sending a soldier back into the hivemind after we capture them.

[ that's just asking for problems. ]

@leo.fitz

[retravel]

There are ways to facilitate an anonymous interrogation, though the blame would undoubtedly fall on Morningstar, regardless.

[ please don’t turn into another murder debate Jesus ]

@rey.nolo

[forcevisions]

Avoiding blame isn't a good enough reason to kill someone who's completely helpless and in our custody.

[retravel]

To be clear: I am not advocating for killing them, in the event we manage to capture an agent. I’m outlining the precautions we could take to avoid that outcome.

[evite]

this was my point to kylo when he brought it up before.
we're not anonymous here. even the identity scramblers still point back to morningstar.

[retravel]

So we show the world that Morningstar won’t be brought to a heel.
And that we have more mercy than the UNA would, if the tables were turned.

[forcevisions]

Knowing that Morningstar fought the UNA and won could give the people hope.

@jon.snow

[998]

If we can turn them, we can use them.

If we can't perhaps we could find a way to track their movements, after.

[bug them? either way it's good a chance to eyes on the inside.]

[evite]

most surveillance equipment is digital, but we might be able to rig something up
i'll look around and see what we might be able to work with

@jon.snow

[998]

[so this is kylo ren. huh]

We should avoid killing anyone at all if we can help it. Even if they're beyond saving, it will draw undue attention toward us. It always does.

@kylo.ren

[warfares]

This will already draw attention to us.

But as stated, the intention is to capture and interrogate and not to kill. If the soldier can be influenced then so much the better for us.

[998]

If we get the timing right we may be able to avoid suspicion or pin it elsewhere. That would be my priority, along with recruiting the soldier if we can.