@marcos.diaz

[heliophilous]

[ marcos hadn't really expected to be back on this network so soon but he'd said he'd do something and while it was a little later than expected, he was going to follow through with that. ]

Not too long ago, I was here with questions about a different version of me being here before. Seems like there's a few people that's happened to now so our club's growing. I'm not here for that today.

During that conversation, I told someone that I'd ask a question to all the Displaced because she was curious and honestly, I am too.

Question is why do you stick around? Why haven't more of you 'fucked off into oblivion' to quote the last conversation I had about this? Is it because there's nowhere else better to go? Or something else?

[ it'd be interesting to see if there was genuine thought in some of the answers, if people didn't know there was anywhere else to go, or just didn't want to make the effort. ]

To be clear, I'm not advocating one way or another. Just posing the question.

[ OOC: this isn't an official mod requested communication and isn't part of some bigger plot. it's just curiosity born of a conversation marcos had with gaby here that he said he'd ask about so he's asking. feel free to talk to each other, of course, and i'll answer as i can. ]

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[heliophilous]

[ nope, time to think about these terrible choices that might have to be made! ]

Could but there's no guarantee.
Would you want to waste time for no guarantee?
Time that could be spent with someone you care about?

[forcevisions]

Yes.
Because if there's no certainty either way, then I choose hope.

[realists]

You look comfortable.

[ real answer time. ]

You know why leaving isn't something I think about. For right now, this planet is it. Sometimes I worry that I'll wake up and my

jacket

will be gone. But there's no guarantee without all the disappearances. Maybe that's the silver lining to growing up in war, I'm already used to it.

[heliophilous]

[ had there been clarification of anything? he doesn't exactly remember a lot of talking happening the last time he'd seen her. ]

Do you wanna have dinner with me?

[ look, he'd asked and everything. ]

[gasping]

i'll think about it :)

[ wait for it. ]

[heliophilous]

And I assume that reason is a person.
They feel the same?

[heliophilous]

Yeah.
People come and go out of your life so often that when it doesn't happen is when you're surprised.
I hope your jacket sticks around, for what it's worth.

[heliophilous]

There's more than one way to have hope.

[forcevisions]

What you're describing isn't hope; it's giving up.

[realists]

Exactly.

[heliophilous]

[ she'll think about it. huh. ]

Well, you know where I live for at least the next few days.
So, let me know when you're done thinking.

[heliophilous]

Or it's living.

I'm like you. I want to find answers.
But I've been around people that just want to live, both here and back where I'm from.
I can't tell them that's wrong.

[forcevisions]

It may surprise you to learn that plenty of us live and look for answers. But just resigning yourself to the will of whatever power brought us here isn't living, it's hiding.
We all deserve better than that.

[evite]

if he doesn't, it's news to me.

[ he told her as much, anyway. ]

[heliophilous]

Or it's acceptance.

Look, you don't have to convince me. I get where you're coming from but I think there's people out there that are going to disagree.

[heliophilous]

You've already talked about it?
Guess it's good to be on the same page.

[evite]

yeah. we've talked about it a couple times, actually.

[ she keeps rereading this post and wanting to scream. ]

telling people they're selfish for trying to make a life here isn't going to help anyone.
we may not have a choice about being here, but we can choose what to do now that we're here. if someone wants to focus on living instead of going back, that's up to them.

i just want people to know that it's possible. you can find something that gives you a reason to survive here that isn't just going back to wherever you came from, you know?

[heliophilous]

I believe you.
I'd be shocked if something like that hadn't happened, honestly. When you're in close quarters with people for a long period of times, it happens.

[ it happened to him before, it might happen again. who knows. ]

Survival's the name of the game, isn't it? That's top priority.

[evite]

it's not about survival.
if that's all it was, people would be satisfied to eat crackers and warm themselves by a firepit.

people want to live. i know i do.
at some point, you have to face the reality that going home may not be on the immediate horizon. you have to be able to face the life you've got in the meantime.

[ she doesn't say "i don't know that we'll ever go home" because that's too depressing to think about for people who want to. but daisy's not sure if she believes it's really possible. ]

[heliophilous]

I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone that doesn't want to live.

[ maybe there were a few out there who were just going through the motions but he hopes not. he hopes everyone has at least something. ]

What point do you think people should start to face that? Or is it a personal thing?

[evite]

you might find people who feel guilty for wanting to.

[ she had, at first. ]

there's no one size fits all on this kind of thing. everybody's got their own shit to deal with.

[heliophilous]

Yeah.

[ that...feels very, very familiar. he's pretty sure he might still be in a phase like that. ]

So, what's your hope, then? If you decide to stay here, live your life, where do you find your hope?

[ he's just going to take something from another conversation and bring it here to gauge the different opinion that he expects to get. ]

@ziggy.stardust

[transuniversal]

I have only been here a short time. But from experience, I know it is much easier to "fuck off" on your own when you still have access to all of your stuff, and all aspects of yourself.

[ Mostly the latter. He could do it, he's done it, when all his tissues were nano-engineered to let him hijack devices and he could stick to walls and a thousand other really strange things. Without that...it's considerably more complicated. ]

[heliophilous]

[ ziggy stardust, huh? ]

All aspects of yourself?

@eugenides.attolis

[kleptocratic]

Is there a way to turn this thing off?