@john.jaqobis

[stabilis]

Hey, good news: I've got a quiz.

[ everyone loves online quizzes, right!! ]

Bad news: it's incredibly invasive and you probably won't want to answer it, but do me a favor and keep reading anyway.

We need to talk about our dreams. So far, we've got:

The dreams on October 5th. Already weird, but significantly weirder after our subconscious deep-dive. As far as I know there are 2 that have been shared between a few people, possibly a 3rd. If any of this sounds familiar, feel free to share with the class:

a) a group looking for a bridge and crossing it
b) being held in a facility full of sick people and getting stabby with a lab coat
c) being herded like cattle while strangers check your vitals

And then we've got the dreams pre-New Tokyo, which is where the insensitive quiz comes in. I want to correlate as much data as we can, but we can't do that without any data. I know most of us don't want to talk about what went down while we were under, and there isn't much I can do to change that. I'd offer to collect the information privately, or entrust it to someone people like more, but I don't think that'll work, either. We have no idea what we're looking for, so only putting a few eyes or perspectives on it is just going to put us at a disadvantage.

The best I can do is keep it anonymous. You can use THIS SURVEY to share whatever you're willing to share. Omit what you have to, but the more details we can get, the better our odds of finding patterns or keys. The survey won't collect your IDs and tracking's completely off. The catch is that the rest of the Displaced and a few friends at Morningstar will be able to see your answers — even without names attached, I know that's asking a lot. Give yourself a second to think before you hit submit.

For now, all I really want to figure out is whether the environments we encountered belonged to us and whether you'd class them as completely abstract dreams or slightly screwy memories. If we can place dibs on most of them, that's a start. If you want to share anything else, you'll get extra credit.

Last but not least: intellectual discussion and mystery solving is strongly encouraged, but dream shaming is strongly discouraged. Don't be a dick.

( OOC NOTES: This post is 100% for open discussion and threadjacking! Here's a link to the OCTOBER DREAMS descriptions and sign-ups for reference. Regarding SURVEYS, the top-level functions as an external "google form". Just C&P the form and reply to the top-level IC. All survey replies are completely anonymous, and all characters can view these answers.

All discussion must take place on the network post itself with character IDs attached. You cannot reply to the survey responses with free-for-all anonymous discussion. The mechanic is being used to make info sharing easier with sensitive details/private characters, not completely skirt around the network's "no anonymous" rule. Please use it in the spirit intended! )

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SURVEY: REPLY BELOW

[stabilis]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? If you did, describe which one. You can keep it vague, just enough to pull it out of a line-up.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? Pick one.
MISC: Anything else you want to share or ask.

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[deicider]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? No.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? N/A
MISC: I saw one person who looked to be manifesting details from their memory. This was in the New Amsterdam scape. I was able to manifest one of my own personal weapons just by thinking about it.

[forcevisions]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? Yes. A metal ship in a desert.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? Both, in different ways. Things were there that shouldn't be, and it wasn't how I remember it.
MISC: While I was there, it felt like I was asleep. I wasn't myself.

[batricide]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? Yes. The ruined metropolitan city.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? Both.
MISC: It was most likely irradiated. I don't know if that carried over, be aware.

[strove]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? A village that calls itself a city, with a large tower in the center. I wasn't there, but this is what I had described to me.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? Abstract, I guess. I'll be honest. What I've heard about it isn't necessarily covered by this question.
MISC: People had full conversations with a construct of a person in my "environment."

[stabilis]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? Dusty planet, small bunker with a medical facility at the back.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? It went off script, but mostly memory.
MISC: n/a

[revlon]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? Yes. An underground military bunker made of stone and a forest in winter, both under sporadic bombardment.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? Both. The subjects present and events that occurred were often incongruous to the setting.
MISC: I didn't realise anything was amiss in these environments until someone called my attention to it. (Arguably not dissimilar to lucid dreaming.)

[retravel]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN?
1. Sterile office building, large and difficult to navigate
2. An underground lab with brick walls, 21st-century tech
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? Both settings were from memory, though the events therein were new.
MISC: The environments were populated by people I know well, and I also had trouble recognising them as uncanny.

[warfares]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? Yes. A forest on an ice-planet.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? Both.
MISC: I was younger, and I was fleeing something. Or being hunted by it.

[evasives]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? One. A planet from my universe. The rest were seemingly locations of this Earth.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? Both. I have been to the planet, but it was not a specific case.
MISC: I experienced very little in the way of personalized dream sharing. Most of it seemed related to this world.

[rehandle]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN?
1. Deep space, angry colors, oddly shaped masses, populated by a giant murderous primordial entity.
2. A moving, folding city defying all physical law.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? 1. A direct memory.
2. Both insofar as the experience differed each time and the city was a conglomeration of many I've visited but the magic involved was familiar and specific to my experiences of it.
MISC: In one instance both of these environments merged temporarily, introducing creatures relevant to environment 1 to environment 2. This neither has nor could ever have happened in reality.

[revvedup]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? Things looked familiar but just in the sense that I've been in that kind of environment before. I didn't recognize any of the people around me or the people in charge.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? A little of both. Less militaristic.
MISC: Another dream I had was set directly somewhere from my past, in the same kind of environment as the first dream. A medical facility, with a less emphasis on sterility. But there was no one in that dream but me, and someone who came in later on.

[laozu]

DID YOU RECOGNIZE ANY ENVIRONMENTS AS YOUR OWN? Of course. I took myself and one of the others ( Mister Cain ) to my childhood home.
WAS IT ABSTRACT OR BASED ON A SPECIFIC MEMORY? Specific memories.
MISC: I visited a few others on their own home territory, but was always pretty aware that we were in some state of un-reality, even when the others weren't. I had access to the ""power"" I don't have access to now. I guess I can credit my training as the reason I had control of my dream-state and consciousness and all of that. ❤❤❤ XOXO

@rey.nolo

[forcevisions]

Thanks for doing this.

[stabilis]

Hey, don't thank me. I love a good overshare.

[ well, most. could've done without certain naked overshares tbh. the only reason this isn't a public joke is bc he respects you I GUESS ]

I figure we'll either work out some patterns or work out some personal issues, win-win.

@ojiro.juniper

[deicider]

Mine's in. Thanks for putting this together.

Do you think there's a relevant distinction between dream and memory in this case?

@clarke.griffin

[strove]

There is a distinction.

Someone told me about an experience he had in another world. They were able to have people enter and experience their memories. It was while they were waking, but the interaction was limited.

Here ... I don't think you'd call it the same thing.

@clarke.griffin

[strove]

How much do you know about people who were in similar situations to this one?

What I mean is—the multiverse, only they went to a different one before eventually being brought here. A similar situation where they were trapped, with lots of people brought from a lot of different locations.

Because I've met a couple people it's happened to, and I have a feeling it's happened to more. I think that comparing our dream scenarios to things that happened in those worlds could be prudent.

[stabilis]

Not a lot, but I'm guessing they have more to go on re: wacky world/dream hopping than we do. Did they run into stuff like this on the other worlds? Round everyone up and trek to a "bridge" for the sequel? Or, you know, figure out what the hells was going on?

[ these all seem unlikely, but JUST ASKING. on that note, ]

Are they cool with sharing? Might be worth pinging them.

@riku.masterson

[inherited]

Hey. I don't have much to offer when it comes to the surveys, so I won't answer there. But in my experience, sleeping worlds aren't usually as abstract as the city or that facility. They felt the same to me, though. The same source. I'm not sure what that is, but I thought I'd mention it.

Either way, it's strange that they were abstract. Given the changes to the waking world, you'd have to think that the sleeping one was out, so to speak. "Resting." But I don't think so.

That or things are different. I dunno.

I do have experience. So, you can ask me. I was lucid the entire time.

[stabilis]

[ BUDDY... several questions, but starting with one: ]

You can get a sense of the source? Is that based on your experience?

@hiccup.haddock

[boarheaded]

as someone who wasn't here at the time, can i ask for a quick dream rundown?

[ what....aRE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN ]

[stabilis]

[ sORRY they're still working on the guide!!!! but also sure ]

- A while ago some of us had the same weird dreams.
- Less of a while ago we all passed out and ended up in funky shared dreamspaces.
- When we woke up, some of us had changed physical location without any explanation.
- The world we woke up in wasn't the one we'd left, or it had shifted. Most of the changes have been tracked back to heroics and misdemeanors that took place in the dreams, but they didn't translate directly.
- ??? something important that I'm probably forgetting

No idea if it'll happen again, but you might want to clear your subconscious's search history while you still can.

@cassian.andor

[evasives]

[ oh hey wait! he recognizes that name from dutch. she spoke very highly of him. obviously that means it's conversation time. ]

I experienced the first dream option, quite soon after my arrival, so not much of it made sense at the time. Though I cannot say it makes much more sense now either.

Was that the first instance of dreams being shared as far as anyone knows?

sorry for the late reply!! work hiatus

[stabilis]

[ hell yeah she did!! he will probably maybe not disappoint. ]

If it helps, it obviously didn't make much sense to the rest of us either. Seems like we collectively tried to drink or sleep it off.

[ Which is one way to cope. No judgment. ]

And as far I know, yes. But there's a chance someone's had more and didn't realize it or hasn't shared with the class, or that it happened to someone who's already left.

@cain.fighter

[blyat]

i remember that weird dream from around the 5th
didnt really think much of it, just thought my brain was making shit up

[Thinking back, he should've paid more attention. Wrote it down, something, instead of assuming his mind had created the dream out of unreality. Dreams seem to carry heavier weight now after what they'd all experienced.]

like you said, being herded in white hospital scrubs
didnt recognize anyone

@margaret.carter

[revlon]

[ She's been watching this post and Cain's reply piques her interest immediately. She hadn't discussed her dream with anyone but Fitz because she hadn't realised the relevance or importance of it at the time. Wondered if it was some mangled memory of their time before New Amsterdam.

Now she can try and delve into it properly, now that they know dreams aren't just dreams here. ]

Did you attack a scientist (doctor?) with a scalpel in yours, too?