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personalwar) wrote in meadowlark2020-11-12 05:57 pm
Entry tags:
- bones: lance sweets,
- dogs b&c: nill,
- marvel comics: thor,
- marvel comics: wade wilson,
- original: ian fowler,
- original: quintalian,
- overwatch: soldier 76 (jack morrison),
- star trek: elim garak,
- star wars: cassian andor,
- star wars: jyn erso,
- supernatural: dean winchester,
- the 100: clarke griffin,
- the last of us: ellie,
- uncharted: nathan drake
@jack.miller & @lance.sweets
@lance.sweets
Hello everyone. We have some information we’ve been putting together, and with the recent reveal about Riverstone’s suspicions it seemed like it was important to bring it up as soon as possible.
@jack.miller
We’ve confirmed this information to the best of our ability by sharing memories with each other, and wouldn’t be sharing it with everyone if we weren’t pretty convinced we were onto something.
@lance.sweets
There are portions of this which we know for sure, but others are speculation and we’ll make everything as clear as possible.
[And that said--]
This started because I was looking into James Henries, since he’s a public figure and so a basic public search was an easy place to start. Unsurprisingly I didn’t come up with anything new from that, just the same information about the fact that he was a CEO of Giles Bell and that he died in 2303 at the age of 68, but that’s suspicious in itself; why was there so little information about the CEO of a massive corporation?
A scandal would probably be the simplest answer, and there happens to be a piece of interesting information that one of the Displaced received and which is contained in the message compilation. It mentions that, along with various other questionable choices, Henries was using Giles Bell’s resources to research cloning technology. @jyn.erso had mentioned to me that Johann Grey had clones, and so I wondered if there might be a connection there.
@jack.miller
There definitely has to be some kind of connection, as I can confirm that James Henries and Johann Grey look identical. Whether this means they’re actually the same person, I wouldn’t be so quick to assume, but they both seem to be making use of cloning technology in some way. When I interacted with Grey in-person, he implied that he met Cassius all the way back during the Xelkoven War. At the time I didn’t know what to make of it, especially given how he came across as so generally unhinged, but with all of these revelations I’m now wondering if he was being completely literal.
@lance.sweets
Cassius told @robert.plant that Johann was over 400 years old, which aligns with this information; the Xelkov war started in 2095 and it’s 2512 now, so if Johann is 400+ then he could have been around during the war. As far as Henries goes, the timing is a little strange; he was 68 in 2303, so born about 2235, and was CEO at some point in the middle of that. The main noteworthy thing that coincides with this timing is the banning of human cloning, and so Henries’ use of Giles Bell to that end makes sense; if he and Johann were running out of clones due to the ban, they would need a way to make more.
@jack.miller
My guess is that for one reason or another, both of them were making use of these duplicated bodies, and Grey was doing so in order to extend his lifespan. The nitty-gritty of how that’s even biologically possible I’m not as clear on, but I’m not sure how else he could have survived this long.
@lance.sweets
So in summary, what we know for sure is that James Henries and Johann Grey are physically identical, Johann is hundreds of years old and has clones, and Henries was briefly CEO of Giles Bell and used that position to work on cloning technology. Everything else is speculation, but it fits logically together.
Additional questions about this would be:
Does Riverstone know about this, considering their questions about Johann and their speculation of Henries’ involvement in our situation?
How did Henries become CEO? This was a job he supposedly got because of family.
How does cloning work in regard to maintaining some sort of individual personality? Is it possible to shift memories and experiences from one clone to another?
@jack.miller
Cloning isn’t something that exists back in my world, but if anyone has their own experiences from back home to contribute here, it might help fill in some of these blanks.
@lance.sweets
That goes for any other information from your time here, like things that might not have seemed important at the time, or which might fit together with--or even disprove--this. Whatever you know about any of this could be incredibly useful.
Hello everyone. We have some information we’ve been putting together, and with the recent reveal about Riverstone’s suspicions it seemed like it was important to bring it up as soon as possible.
@jack.miller
We’ve confirmed this information to the best of our ability by sharing memories with each other, and wouldn’t be sharing it with everyone if we weren’t pretty convinced we were onto something.
@lance.sweets
There are portions of this which we know for sure, but others are speculation and we’ll make everything as clear as possible.
[And that said--]
This started because I was looking into James Henries, since he’s a public figure and so a basic public search was an easy place to start. Unsurprisingly I didn’t come up with anything new from that, just the same information about the fact that he was a CEO of Giles Bell and that he died in 2303 at the age of 68, but that’s suspicious in itself; why was there so little information about the CEO of a massive corporation?
A scandal would probably be the simplest answer, and there happens to be a piece of interesting information that one of the Displaced received and which is contained in the message compilation. It mentions that, along with various other questionable choices, Henries was using Giles Bell’s resources to research cloning technology. @jyn.erso had mentioned to me that Johann Grey had clones, and so I wondered if there might be a connection there.
@jack.miller
There definitely has to be some kind of connection, as I can confirm that James Henries and Johann Grey look identical. Whether this means they’re actually the same person, I wouldn’t be so quick to assume, but they both seem to be making use of cloning technology in some way. When I interacted with Grey in-person, he implied that he met Cassius all the way back during the Xelkoven War. At the time I didn’t know what to make of it, especially given how he came across as so generally unhinged, but with all of these revelations I’m now wondering if he was being completely literal.
@lance.sweets
Cassius told @robert.plant that Johann was over 400 years old, which aligns with this information; the Xelkov war started in 2095 and it’s 2512 now, so if Johann is 400+ then he could have been around during the war. As far as Henries goes, the timing is a little strange; he was 68 in 2303, so born about 2235, and was CEO at some point in the middle of that. The main noteworthy thing that coincides with this timing is the banning of human cloning, and so Henries’ use of Giles Bell to that end makes sense; if he and Johann were running out of clones due to the ban, they would need a way to make more.
@jack.miller
My guess is that for one reason or another, both of them were making use of these duplicated bodies, and Grey was doing so in order to extend his lifespan. The nitty-gritty of how that’s even biologically possible I’m not as clear on, but I’m not sure how else he could have survived this long.
@lance.sweets
So in summary, what we know for sure is that James Henries and Johann Grey are physically identical, Johann is hundreds of years old and has clones, and Henries was briefly CEO of Giles Bell and used that position to work on cloning technology. Everything else is speculation, but it fits logically together.
Additional questions about this would be:
Does Riverstone know about this, considering their questions about Johann and their speculation of Henries’ involvement in our situation?
How did Henries become CEO? This was a job he supposedly got because of family.
How does cloning work in regard to maintaining some sort of individual personality? Is it possible to shift memories and experiences from one clone to another?
@jack.miller
Cloning isn’t something that exists back in my world, but if anyone has their own experiences from back home to contribute here, it might help fill in some of these blanks.
@lance.sweets
That goes for any other information from your time here, like things that might not have seemed important at the time, or which might fit together with--or even disprove--this. Whatever you know about any of this could be incredibly useful.
@lance.sweets
Is it common in your world?
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i track others for a few years. we were being all over world.
did not clone ourselves, like this man seems to be doing
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I'm sorry about your situation. It doesn't seem like an easy position to be in.
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and i still know how to fight
it was shit but now i have sister
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we are twins
[ helpful :D ]
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Is she another clone?
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we are twins also
did not know about each other until most recently. first i think she is other clone, but we have same birth mother
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That's pretty cool. How long has it been since you found each other again?
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i felt connection