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meadowlark2020-10-03 08:34 pm
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@nill.klein & @ren.amamiya
[this is not nill’s bag of chips. she hasn’t addressed the network in... six months? right, not since heine left. so this is a much better thing to talk about than losing her best friend and also the only other person from her world. this is loads better. just asking people for stuff.]
@nill.klein
We need some new supplies for the new arrivals. [good, solid start. she’s got this.] Any clothes or toiletries you can spare. Some of the things we have are getting run down, and we could use a better variety of sizes for clothing.
And any cloth that can be turned into sheets, too. If anyone knows how to sew, that would also be helpful. I know a little about sewing, but I’m not very good at it. Any sheets I make will probably be a little crooked.
[okay, the hard part is done.
Ren is here for support, so when Nill finishes her thoughts, he steps in to wrap it up.]
@ren.amamiya
It's rough showing up the way we do, so Nill and I thought we could make things better, rather than just limiting it to the basics. She did a good job outlining what we need, but we're willing to take suggestions if anyone has them. Ah--we also have another question.
@nill.klein
What are some things you wish you’d had when you arrived? Or what did you wish was in the safehouse? I don’t think we can do anything extravagant, but we can try to make it more welcoming when everything is up and running again.
@nill.klein
We need some new supplies for the new arrivals. [good, solid start. she’s got this.] Any clothes or toiletries you can spare. Some of the things we have are getting run down, and we could use a better variety of sizes for clothing.
And any cloth that can be turned into sheets, too. If anyone knows how to sew, that would also be helpful. I know a little about sewing, but I’m not very good at it. Any sheets I make will probably be a little crooked.
[okay, the hard part is done.
Ren is here for support, so when Nill finishes her thoughts, he steps in to wrap it up.]
@ren.amamiya
It's rough showing up the way we do, so Nill and I thought we could make things better, rather than just limiting it to the basics. She did a good job outlining what we need, but we're willing to take suggestions if anyone has them. Ah--we also have another question.
@nill.klein
What are some things you wish you’d had when you arrived? Or what did you wish was in the safehouse? I don’t think we can do anything extravagant, but we can try to make it more welcoming when everything is up and running again.
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so no, i'm not taking personal responsibility for every asshole who wanders into red wings. i'm telling you that if we can't trust 'em to take responsibility for themselves when they arrive, it's not gonna get better once they got id.
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I proposed a compromise in this conversation.
We don't know who shows up, and everyone's already traumatized. If I had the option, I would've run when I arrived.
That wouldn't have been a good decision for me.
It's a lot more complex than the just a middle ground.
I want to make sure you're not just another irresponsible adult making these decisions without thinking it through.
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[ since complaining about adults souNDS LIKE SOMETHING A KID WOULD DO ]
you woulda run, you might've learned a hard lesson. and then you could go right back to the safehouse with your tail between your legs. that's not irresponsible. that's the real world.
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I could've done something that would've been bad for everyone.
Not just me.
@gaby
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You've gotten people out of jail before?
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And whoever that is knows who I am. Who I really am.
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@robert.plant
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but you didn't.
someone really wants to get out and stir shit up, they're going to find a way. you really wanna risk alienating everyone else in the process? because i'll tell you right here, that ain't a good idea.
@gaby
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And it's not like people aren't willing to take other people out with them, or even board them.
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Then 2 more days for an ID.
Not giving people time is like not giving them all the tools to make choices.
If you want to really help, maybe you can board someone during that time instead.
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they can't do almost anything without their implants registered
the safehouse sucked but it was better than not being able to open doors or read signs everywhere you go
plus won't people start picking up on it when unregistered people are showing up and wandering around looking like morons every two weeks like clockwork?
i don't know anyone who's shown up here and started breaking shit or something, but not being able to do basic stuff that anyone here should is a red flag
right?
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it's the "this starts getting really obvious and draws attention to us" part
plus it's like two days
they'll live
we should at least use a buddy system or something
considering we all show up drugged and follow commands against our will
that shit takes a while to wear off
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