@nill.klein & @ren.amamiya

[culver]

[this is not nill’s bag of chips. she hasn’t addressed the network in... six months? right, not since heine left. so this is a much better thing to talk about than losing her best friend and also the only other person from her world. this is loads better. just asking people for stuff.]

@nill.klein
We need some new supplies for the new arrivals. [good, solid start. she’s got this.] Any clothes or toiletries you can spare. Some of the things we have are getting run down, and we could use a better variety of sizes for clothing.

And any cloth that can be turned into sheets, too. If anyone knows how to sew, that would also be helpful. I know a little about sewing, but I’m not very good at it. Any sheets I make will probably be a little crooked.

[okay, the hard part is done.

Ren is here for support, so when Nill finishes her thoughts, he steps in to wrap it up.]

@ren.amamiya
It's rough showing up the way we do, so Nill and I thought we could make things better, rather than just limiting it to the basics. She did a good job outlining what we need, but we're willing to take suggestions if anyone has them. Ah--we also have another question.

@nill.klein
What are some things you wish you’d had when you arrived? Or what did you wish was in the safehouse? I don’t think we can do anything extravagant, but we can try to make it more welcoming when everything is up and running again.

Comments

[variate]

Letting them out into a world they don't know sounds distressing, especially when people want to run.

I'm not disagreeing with you.
But small steps might be better, first. It's hard to understand the severity of the situation when you first get here, and then a little while before you get the tools to make the choices that let you take your autonomy back.

[lifetothefullest]

A day or so would make sense to wait for the effects of the drugs to wear off, because that does legitimately affect their ability to make decisions. But more than that still seems unnecessary; no one arriving really has a sense for this place after four days, especially when they aren't even allowed out of a single building, so it's not as though they cross some sort of metaphorical boundary on day four that makes it different from day two in anything other than the creation of their ID.

Whose decision is it anyway, ultimately? Who would actually control the safehouse when it's working again?

[variate]

Are you against the buddy system?

[lifetothefullest]

Not in principle, and it's better than people not being allowed out at all. However, forcing new arrivals to have what many will probably see as a chaperone--and not only that, but a chaperone who's a complete stranger that they don't know or trust--has its own risks, both to the new arrival and the person who's accompanying them.

[variate]

We don't know how new arrivals will feel. I can only speak from my own experience.
Maybe we should ask them.

[lifetothefullest]

Asking new arrivals when they arrive what will make things easier for them is definitely something I can agree on.

[variate]

You get in your head a lot, don't you?

[lifetothefullest]

In what way?

[variate]

A lot of what you were saying was really specific.
Like you were going through every scenario.

[lifetothefullest]

That's part of my job, at home. What I do depends on being aware of as many different things that can happen as possible, which of those many possibilities is most likely to occur, and how to account for that in order to come out with the best result.

[variate]

Does it get confining?

[lifetothefullest]

[Interesting question.]

It gets exhausting, but not confining. Being aware of and accounting for different outcomes makes it less likely you'll get stuck in a situation you don't have a way of dealing with.

[variate]

Yeah, I guess so.

[lifetothefullest]

Do you feel differently?

[variate]

It's just not what I do.
I don't tell people how they should handle themselves.

[ he was curious. ]

[lifetothefullest]

That's an interesting takeaway to have gotten from this conversation.

[variate]

And the rest of this conversation?

[ given the rest that have jumped in. ]

[lifetothefullest]

Also interesting.

[variate]

Don't be a prick.

[lifetothefullest]

[He can't even be insulted by that, it's fair enough. But still--]

What kind of answer are you expecting? I've said my piece, and Sam--who has more directly relevant experience, having arrived while the safehouses were offline--has said his. You disagree, and you're entitled to, but it doesn't look like anyone's going to be changing their stances at this point. I'm not sure what else you want me to say.

[variate]

If you want this so badly, I expect you to fight harder.
To take some responsibility for it.
Are you going to let someone else do it for you?

[lifetothefullest]

So you're annoyed that I'm not arguing with you more? What would that accomplish?

[variate]

That you're not looking for an excuse to stand on the sidelines and watch.
If you believe that this is for the better of people who arrive, then yeah. Argue. Do it as hard as you can.

[lifetothefullest]

If it were your decision to make, then that might be true.

[variate]

Then you can take up your ideals to someone who has authority.
Adults are all the same.