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damian wayne (injustice) ([personal profile] batricide) wrote in [community profile] meadowlark2019-05-03 09:31 pm

@hafid.alghul

Before we return to New Amsterdam, I wanted to bring something forward to all of you.

As things stand we're reliant on Morningstar to survive in the world. This worked while things were new, while there was still a chance we were just passing through, but some of our numbers have been here for months and as we grow it's important we find a way to handle ourselves, both for our own sake and the sake of the people we've been depending on.

What I propose is a plan to make us self-sustaining and ensure that we're doing more than surviving, we're thriving as best we can given circumstances.

We have no shortage of talent among us, meaning that this task is well within our ability to handle. Our different backgrounds have given us a diverse skillset that's currently being wasted by our own lack of order. I propose changing that by introducing voluntary groups that will focus on building specific areas we need to improve on and help move us forward as an organization.

Combat. Business and Finance. Research and Development. Medical. Internal Human Relations. And Public Relations and Outreach. All areas we need to be focusing on and expanding on, each with its own unique skillset.

Each committee will be under the supervision of one or more members of the Displaced, elected by the committee themselves. These Displaced will be in charge of organizing meetings and gathering any necessary supplies.

What I propose is membership of these committees would be strictly voluntary but strongly encouraged. Many of us are experienced in different areas, so I'm not ruling out serving on multiple committees - but to do what is within your limits.

I also suggest there be two "ambassadors" who will serve as the face and effective organizers of our collective as a wwhole, ensuring that things are running smoothly and the necessary conversations are being had and heard. And if the day comes that we're exposed, they'll serve as the face of our organization to the world itself.

This is only a proposal. I can't force anyone to do this, and this only works through voluntary participation. But I encourage all of you to think about it, and if this is something you want to do, think of how you want to shape our future. We can only do so together.

Thank you for reading this and for your consideration on these words.
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[personal profile] retravel 2019-05-05 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in a bloody snowdrift, and this escalated on your watch.

[ YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE DAMIAN WHISPERER A-HOLE. ]
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[personal profile] rehandle 2019-05-05 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Clarke wrote a slightly condensed version of War and Peace coming out in favour of shutting the whole thing down with a foreword dedicated to Hafid, who hates her.

[ please, FITzROY, explain to him how you whisper tHAT

he was otherwise occupied with writing a sequel in response so it's entirely his bad but he'll never admit it ]


He's apologised. They both have.
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[personal profile] retravel 2019-05-05 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
All while you and his big, bad brother got mired in the sewers of Les Misérables in your haste to lengthily counter her.

[ he's not impressed by the triple-time lecture approach from any of them, not just Hafid. ]

She raises valid points. I'm glad they'll be considered.

[ FINALLY ]
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[personal profile] rehandle 2019-05-05 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
[ don't mcfucking do it, mate, he's sitting at ground zero and he'll absolutely fight you ]

She took time to raise valid points, they deserved a valid response. We came to an understanding by the end of the conversation and I wasn't aware the full weight of the Grimm brothers was about to slide down behind me.
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[personal profile] retravel 2019-05-05 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
No, I suppose you wouldn’t.

[ it’s a teensy bit of judgment still, when this is often the way the brothers do business. And Stephen chose not to make his thoughts known on the post, and hasn’t publicly denounced the mudslinging tactics, instead only replying to debate with Clarke directly.

As a spy, Fitz is well-versed in optics. ]


Do you know how many people this went through before the public was able to discuss? I reckon a future debate should ask what we all want before telling us what we need.

[ he knows Stephen has Damian’s ear, too. And Fitz has taken issue with the implications that they’ve been struggling and haphazard before now (as well as the repeated mention of the potential loss of Morningstar as an impetus; they’ve been around for fifty years, and they’ll be around for fifty more).

There’s room for a softer approach than this. ]
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[personal profile] rehandle 2019-05-05 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
You, me, Markus, possibly his family. And that would seem evident, yes.

[ but if optics are a problem, and he'll very much agree that they are - ]

Though if we're to start involving the word debate, we'll need to diversify access to the conversation. I was hopeful this time, but I think it's become clear that the network as an exclusive venue for these conversations isn't having the desired effect. Arguments that muddy the waters immortalized for any fresh eyes to see when they look back to find actual information on big issues has hurt us before and will most likely continue to inspire mistrust.

We have a habit of desperately derailing. Manageable in person, relatively damning over text.


[ example 1: this mess
example 2: murdergate ]
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[personal profile] retravel 2019-05-05 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
And Rey, to be sure. Perhaps also my team, though not Carter. Too many key players, I should think, despite the exclusions. I will say leaving out Clarke was a laughably massive oversight, given all she's done for the Displaced and how fearless she is in a disagreement.

[ He wonders if any of their feedback was taken on board, however, when the ambassadorial position persisted despite his comments. ]

We'll have to disagree here, Stephen. In my mind, the network is a symptom, not the cause. I certainly wouldn't have liked to be in the room, after seeing the insults and threats thrown around. Even an in-person discussion would need to be minuted and verified on the network. Debates about the nature of how we govern ought to be captured as fully as possible. And you'd need a moderator willing to remain neutral and step forward, in the event of poor conduct.

Everyone should be asked what they want first, if we're to come together, whether that's in person or on the network. Do you agree?


[ Fitz would raise the countless examples of collaboration on the network, of which Clarke has managed a few. He doesn't think things are as simple as the means of communication: The content, too, needs refining. ]
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[personal profile] rehandle 2019-05-05 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
[ a quiet vow to never put himself in a position where that's his problem again. he's a neurosurgeon and a sorcerer. neither of those roles are famously renowned for imbuing their practitioners with anything resembling people skills. Damian is arguably better at diplomacy than he is, evidenced by replying to and encouraging everyone and not the single person you disagree with whoops, one of the unspoken reasons why Stephen didn't take this out of his hands.

as for the rest, it's not a conversation he has the energy for - not on this forum. enough words in his head today and with the outcome unlikely to be favorable he'll pass on any more. anyway, if Stephen's not going to be willing to organize any kind of overhaul, and God knows he's got enough on his plate, he's no horse in the race. ]


Obviously. Nothing on a mutual, group-wide scale can progress without majority agreement. And it won't have unquestionable value unless we're all considered in the end result.

[ he's tired, go and play in the snow. ]
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[personal profile] retravel 2019-05-05 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
[ The answer tells him all he needs to know in what it doesn't say. Stephen's done, and he has a right to be, but this can't be over, not when he inserted himself firmly into one side of the debate. ]

Then I look forward to the next group-wide discussion opening with that sentiment, Stephen, for all our sakes.
And I hope there'll be a capable moderator in place, regardless of the forum.


[ someone needs to watch for this nonsense, and too many of their own are passive in the face of discord. ]
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[personal profile] rehandle 2019-05-05 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
If that was an implication that this is anything I'm equipped to manage, I point you toward your disappointment in my conduct and my obvious bias toward some form of the plan Hafid's proposed.

If not, me too. Perhaps you should look into that.


[ he's absolutely too tired for the even the concept of fitz' possible sorely misplaced belief in him. let's just shut that down real quick and offer the floor to somebody better suited.

if Fitz wants it to be a discussion from the ground up, he's going to need to have a hand in setting the ball rolling and facilitating at least their arrival at the starting gates. because building something from scratch without an existing idea as foundation, ensuring everyone has a voice in it and making sure the conversation doesn't devolve into explosive squabbling is a bigger job than either one of them has time for alone.

Stephen can think of exactly one person designed as a perfect fit for the job and he's not putting this on Markus, the only sane mediating individual he actually thinks they have. ]
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[personal profile] retravel 2019-05-05 10:35 am (UTC)(link)
[ Fitz does believe in him. Strange is an avenger, a leader of the medical efforts, and a confidant. That's not nothing — but none of them are political figures and they haven't been before now. Clarke has. Markus led a rebellion. Carter built SHIELD. He's sure there are others among their number with experience leading forces far greater than their own.

In all honesty, Fitz doesn't consider either of them suited for this work. ]


We've had a loose structure in place for some time now, and I think the committees are quite a clever way to advance that, don't you? All of you and Clarke's efforts with medical, everything Hafid and Daisy have done in training, even Bobbi's Welcome Guide.

I take greater issue with the implication that everything we've done before now has been simply surviving or that we need outward facing positions when we haven't yet all agreed to come together under the umbrella of Displaced, a collective and team, not just a group forced together by circumstances. We are stronger than we know — and more divided, too.

But there's hope for us yet, if we're willing to listen to one another, as Hafid and Clarke have both demonstrated. The softer touch applied in that compromise is one I can get behind. An openness to shifting terrain is essential; that's all I mean to advocate for.


[ and they'll see what lovable idiot will die on the moderator hill another day. ]
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[personal profile] rehandle 2019-05-05 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
[ he's not an avenger fitzherbert you say that to his face

but Fitz brings up something else that derails his focus on the issue at hand for a moment - the umbrella of Displaced as an optional concept. not anymore, that's out of their hands. the choice now is whether to be ready when whoever's holding it over their heads decides to lift it aside and let the rain in.

Fitz is entirely too close to Damian for him to risk venturing onto the topic now. it's frustrating to be bound by a promise, to not be able to properly express the immediacy of his concerns and how they inform his position here, but he's given his word. and Fitz would ask the kinds of questions whose answers or lack thereof would both speak as loud. ]


Here's to hoping somebody picks up wherever this lands.

[ it's all he has left to say. Fitz' hopes may come to pass or they may not. for now, all they can do is sit and watch - Fitz to run damage control, Stephen to keep out of the way and wait. ]
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[personal profile] retravel 2019-05-05 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
We will.

[ together or not at all. ]