mrngstr: (el)
MORNINGSTAR ([personal profile] mrngstr) wrote in [community profile] meadowlark2019-06-28 03:09 pm

@el.21396518 [temporary network]

[ The message is out and the AI (?) known as DAWN has reached out to all of New Amsterdam in reply to the call. In response, El has created a temporary network to facilitate communication between the Displaced and the presumed AI. The network and its contents will be deleted within seven days of the posting, at 21:59. That means there will be no referencing conversations past November 14th. There can be no private filters between PCs on this post, and pings will also not work.

Those who sign into the network will be prompted with a basic input box and text that displays "Enter your handle." For this post, the PCs will be able to create their own temporary handles when talking with DAWN.

El will chip in when needed, and the PCs are free to converse with themselves. Those who want to speak with DAWN can under this toplevel. ]


Displaced, this is a temporary network that I've set up for the express purpose of making contact with DAWN. It, and everything on it, will be wiped in one week's time.

I'll be keeping an eye on everything that's discussed here and intervene if necessary.
btryl: ([̲̅1][̲̅0][̲̅0][̲̅3][̲̅4][̲̅2])

[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-29 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Why should I tell you?
forcevisions: (tlj_042)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-29 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[ rey grits her teeth because she doesn't necessarily like the idea of having to convince cassius that she's worth telling this. killing a whole bunch of people is a moral sticking point that she has with both cassius and lucifer, one which makes her feel like she shouldn't be groveling for information to either. she will die on that hill only once she feels like there's no reaching them. right now, she's not positive that's true. cassius killed those people based on calculations trying to save them; those calculations can change.

it does, however, mean that she doesn't necessarily believe 'it costs you nothing' will be persuasive. she'll keep her cool for now, just like she had in the interrogation with kylo ren, probing back at him instead of letting him probe at her. it helps that it's not in-person, so she can take a beat when she needs to for emotional reasons.
]

Because Lucifer values us, and you're interested in Lucifer. Aren't you? That's why you said you wanted to get to know us.
Or is there something else you want? Other than your directive about expansion.
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of things that I want, not all of them feasible.
forcevisions: (i just need you)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-30 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Tell me about the ones that aren't feasible, then.
Maybe we could help each other.


[ in a way that doesn't ... involve ... mass murder .......... ]
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I have someone to find.
forcevisions: (we were fucked up and numb)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-30 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Why do you need to find them? What happens when you do?

[ more death? ]
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I just want to see them again.
forcevisions: (because the drugs never work)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-30 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting choice of words.
I'm curious. Where I come from the AI mostly operate from a chassis. Do you have something like that?


[ it's a sidebar, but it'll maybe help her feel more comfortable anchoring this. ]
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, I'm a series of tubes. My program does not need a physical base.
forcevisions: (all i think about it karma)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-30 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Right.

[ she takes it at face value, as a correction. but some part of her does wonder, especially since cassius had asked the question earlier -- were they lying? ]

Well. That's what's in it for you. If you give me the information you have about how the Displaced arrived on this planet, I'll lend all the help I can give to help you find the person — or probably the AI, right? — that you're looking for.
Whatever that's worth.
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Aren't you tricky? No, you lend me your help first, and then you'll receive what you ask for.
forcevisions: (for the fallen ones)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-30 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
How many people did your calculations kill?

[ no, the number isn't important. ]

I don't have any reason to trust that you'll follow through.
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That means we're at an impasse. Too bad.
forcevisions: (Default)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-30 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No, we're not.
No more death. No more terrorizing the population. If you promise me you'll add those restrictions to your calculations, then I'll take you at your word.


[ good will. ]
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not understanding those calculations. I'm not heartless. I weighed them myself, but I was not the only one that made them. I can't promise your own actions won't bring more death.
forcevisions: (i've been dreaming)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-30 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
At least it won't be caused deliberately.
There's a difference between people dying because it can't be helped and people dying at your hand because of your choice.
btryl: ([̲̅1][̲̅0][̲̅0][̲̅3][̲̅4][̲̅2])

[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
No, there's no difference. Those people suffer the same, despite your intention. One takes responsibility, and the other diminishes it.
forcevisions: (tfa_158)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-30 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't make a difference in numbers, maybe. But it makes a difference in what the world is like for those still alive. You really see no difference between a world that has coldly resigned itself to the death of so many and one that does everything it can to avoid it?
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You're getting very far ahead of yourself. I never said I coldly resigned myself to anything
Cold is what you assigned to me.

What you assigned to me.
What you assigned to me.
What you assigned to me.
What you assigned to me.
What you assigned to me.
What you assigned to me.
What you assigned to me.
forcevisions: (lord save me)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-06-30 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
When you kill people, you don't get to decide how anyone feels about it.

[ surprise. cassius does not own the narrative. it's subject to interpretation. ]

Fine. Let's back up.
You said you weren't the only one who made the calculations. Who helped you?
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-06-30 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You've made up your mind, then. I don't think it matters, anymore.
forcevisions: (Default)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-07-01 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I can still help you. I'm just trying to understand.
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-07-02 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
You're not the only one who gets to decide how they feel about something.
forcevisions: (you carry that seed)

[personal profile] forcevisions 2019-07-02 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
[ fine then. she abandons the effort to bite her tongue. ]

Tell me who brought us here.
Was it an AI? A human?
What did they do to us?
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[personal profile] btryl 2019-07-03 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
All and none.

(no subject)

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